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October 21, 2024
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Relationship between distance and ambient in vl53l8cx TOF sensor

  • October 21, 2024
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Does the ambient value affect the distance measurements in the VL53L8CX, or are both parameters independent of each other?

Best answer by John E KVAM

Just prior to turning on the VCSEL (laser) light, we take a measure of the Ambient. Then we subtract the ambient leaving us with Signal over ambient. Then we determine where the target is from that signal. 

So in theory the Ambient has no effect on the measurement. 

But in really bright light, the ambient is so strong that it saturates all of our SPADs (photon detectors). When this happens, we have no ability to 'see' the signal. 

In summary, the ambient has no effect on the measurement but it does affect how far the sensor can range. 

- john

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ST Employee
October 21, 2024

Just prior to turning on the VCSEL (laser) light, we take a measure of the Ambient. Then we subtract the ambient leaving us with Signal over ambient. Then we determine where the target is from that signal. 

So in theory the Ambient has no effect on the measurement. 

But in really bright light, the ambient is so strong that it saturates all of our SPADs (photon detectors). When this happens, we have no ability to 'see' the signal. 

In summary, the ambient has no effect on the measurement but it does affect how far the sensor can range. 

- john

Associate II
September 16, 2025

Old thread... But, I wonder if one could add a narrow band 940 nm Filter as a "cover glass", to get more ambient IR rejection? I'm not sure how sharp the bandpass receive filter on the vl53l8cx is? Is that in the data sheet?

Anyway, I've done that in other cases.

(A bit off topic, but about narrow bandpass filters: While at Nokia, I had a supplier make a plastic "mirror" display cover, by using quite narrow RGB bandpass filters that very closely matched the RGB LED peak wavelengths, and it worked great! )

ST Employee
September 17, 2025

FYI. The VL53L5/7/8 family of devices already include a good quality 940nm bandpass filter as part of the lens that sits in front of the SPAD array.  So although you might be able to make a small improvement I don't think it would be significant.

Associate II
September 18, 2025

There's the answer, at least in a "qualitative" way.  ;-}

The SPAD detectors are, i think, fairly broadband, so that the filter has a big effect on ambient saturation...Because the emitter has almost zero bandwidth, one can use a very narrow filter, trying to get the so-called "laser focus" on the bandeidth ... Without knowing the bandwidth of the existing filter, it's difficult to calculate actual performance change.