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Visitor II
March 20, 2021
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Why the Z axis is noisier than the others axis?

  • March 20, 2021
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Hi, I'm testing with the LIS3DHTR and I notice that the Z axis is noisier than the others axis. It doesn't matter the position of the accelerometer, always the Z axis is noisier. Why does happen?

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    Best answer by Eleon BORLINI

    Hi @AJura.1​ ,

    the MEMS structure on the LIS3DHTR accelerometer is a little asymmetric with respect to the comb-finger structure along X and Y.

    This may result in a stronger impact of bending / uniform soldering effects during the soldering process, this resulting in a noisier output along Z axis.

    -Eleon

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    ST Employee
    March 22, 2021

    Hi @AJura.1​ ,

    the noise should be however always inside the datasheet specification for the LIS3DH (at p.11), i.e. 220μg/√Hz in the FS 2g case, isn't it?

    You should also separate the offset DC contribution to the proper rms noise effect.

    On the LIS3DHTR device family (which is not the last generation devices), the Z axis is by mechanical construction a little different from the x and y ones, since it is "out-of-plane".

    You could try lowering the ODR to get a natural low pass filter on the integral (i.e. in the whole band) noise, since the acquisition band will reduce to ODR/2.

    -Eleon

    AJura.1Author
    Visitor II
    March 22, 2021

    Hi @Eleon BORLINI​ ,

    Yes, I know. I'm already separating the DC component from the offset but I still see a lot of noise. I share some small examples of the measurements that I have.

    As you can see, the noise on the Z axis is very high. In the other axes the noise is also high, but acceptable. I am using a full scale of 2g, with an ODR of 100 Hz. I really don't know why only the Z axis is so noisy.

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    ST Employee
    March 23, 2021

    Hi @AJura.1​ ,

    I see, thank you for sharing the data... you said that you are seeing the issue also when the device is in a vertical position, i.e. with the z axis not orthogonal to the ground, right?

    Can you try lowering the ODR and checking the noise?

    And did you have the possibility to test another LIS3DHTR?

    By the way, to check if the device is good (maybe has been damaged in the past for some handling reason), you can run the self test procedure: it is described in the AN3308 application note p.57, and the C code for the application is on Github (lis3dh_self_test.c).

    -Eleon

    AJura.1Author
    Visitor II
    March 23, 2021

    Hi @Eleon BORLINI​ ,

    I have 3 LIS3DHTR more, I test all of them and I see the same results. In all of them the Z axis is noisier than the others. If I decrease the ODR I can see how the noise is lower but in the z axis is still very high. I use the 2G full scale and the High Resolution mode.

    The results of the selftest are te same, a lower noise but still high. Could it be due to soldering process?

    AJura.1Author
    Visitor II
    March 29, 2021

    Hi @Eleon BORLINI​ ,

    Ok, I understand. Is there a document where explains the internal structure of the accelerometer?

    ST Employee
    March 30, 2021

    Hi @AJura.1​ ,

    well, we cannot disclose the internals structure of LIS3DH MEMS accelerometer, but I can see online a reverse on this product, with some SEM picture of the MEMS chip, that may help you in better understanding the structure (link).

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    -Eleon

    AJura.1Author
    Visitor II
    March 30, 2021

    Hi @Eleon BORLINI​,

    Thank you very much for the help!