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June 9, 2025
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Documentation Omission: IDD polarity on Nucleo-64 Boards (UM1724)

  • June 9, 2025
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There's nothing in the manual which tells you which pin is source, and which is load!

 

PS:

Even the schematic doesn't help!

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    Best answer by Mike_ST

    Hello,

    There is an ongoing effort to fix this on the newer designs.

    Some boards have the pin "1" indication around the IDD jumper, but the schematic forget to tell which one is pin 1... 

    Some board have "VDD_MCU" marking on one pin, which make it clear.

     

    For that  particular board (MB1136), it is an old design, the chances that we roll out an update for that one are low.

    Anyways I entered a ticket to add some indication in case it happens:

    Internal ticket : #211869

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    Technical Moderator
    June 9, 2025

    Hello,

    I don't think this is something critical or blocker as connecting the ammeter in different polarity gives the same power consumption value but with different sign.

    Super User
    June 9, 2025

    Indeed, if you're just using a digital ammeter or DMM, the sign will tell you if you have it the right way around.

    But a DMM really isn't a very useful tool - it can't show rapid variations.

    It can't even show you the 100ms on/off of the LED in the standard demo code.

    For that, you need some sort of proper power analyser - and then you do need to know which way around to connect it!

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    Technical Moderator
    June 9, 2025

    Well, if you want to operate the target without STS-LINK/V2-1 and only want to feed in there, this may play a role. However, according to schematics, the left pin of JP6 here is VDD, which can also be found on CN7.5.

    However, the GERBER also shows the connections, e.g. as in the following picture, in which I have marked the tracks in colour:

    • +3V3 = red
    • VDD = dark green

    But @Andrew Neil surely means that this could also be in the UM1724.

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    Super User
    June 9, 2025

    I couldn't find the PCB layout as a PDF on the CAD Resources page - just Gerbers & Schematics

    Technical Moderator
    June 9, 2025

    I don't really understand the problem - any PDF viewer can do PDF, but it is static, you only see the default view. GERBER can be used by any GERBER viewer, which is also available free of charge, e.g. as part of KiCAD, where, unlike PDF, you can select the layers to be displayed and their colours?

    Super User
    June 9, 2025

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    Technical Moderator
    June 9, 2025

    @Andrew Neil wrote:

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    From my standpoint this is something that could be indicated by silkscreen on the PCB.

    Super User
    June 9, 2025

    Absolutely: I think it should be indicated - either on the silkscreen, or by the usual indication of "Pin 1" of the header by a square pad.

     

    (as seen for JP5 in the image posted by @Peter BENSCH)

    Mike_STAnswer
    Technical Moderator
    June 10, 2025

    Hello,

    There is an ongoing effort to fix this on the newer designs.

    Some boards have the pin "1" indication around the IDD jumper, but the schematic forget to tell which one is pin 1... 

    Some board have "VDD_MCU" marking on one pin, which make it clear.

     

    For that  particular board (MB1136), it is an old design, the chances that we roll out an update for that one are low.

    Anyways I entered a ticket to add some indication in case it happens:

    Internal ticket : #211869