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Visitor II
February 18, 2023
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Smoke came out of the MPU and when I connect it to the computer, the power light is on, but the usb device is not recognized.

  • February 18, 2023
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I connected the 5v input of usb-ttl to the 5v output of the MPU, while the mpu was plugged into the computer and suddenly smoke came out. Now I get 2.8V from the 5v output of the MPU, 2.5v from the 3v output. Also in the debug circuit, r4,r10,r11,r14 The ,r9 resistors are short-circuited and the d1 diode drops 2.55 volts (this is a bit weird to me).

1) Do you think the mpu can be reused?

2) I couldn't find the resistor and diode values ​​on the board from the schematic. Can I find their values?

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    Graduate II
    February 18, 2023

    1) No, not unless you get the smoke back in. Depends on what components were damaged, and the extent.

    2) You've barely identified the MCU, much less the board.

    Most of the NUCLEO and DISCO boards have schematics and BOM on the "CAD Resources" tab of the board's home pages.

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    Visitor II
    February 18, 2023

    STM32F407VG MCU.But ı cannot fınd it

    Graduate II
    February 18, 2023

    You have an STM32F4-DISCOVERY (DISCO/DISC1) board? Or something else? Assume all people known is what you tell them..

    https://www.st.com/en/evaluation-tools/stm32f4discovery.html

    https://www.st.com/en/evaluation-tools/stm32f4discovery.html#cad-resources

    Bill of Materials (BOM) should give component values

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    Visitor II
    February 19, 2023

    Ohh.Thank you very very much

    Super User
    February 19, 2023

    >Smoke came out of the MPU

    so you got the chance, to see the soul of your cpu going to his grandfathers of the tube area . :))

    you get this chance only one time in life (of the chip..) .

    now - buy new cpu or better new board, maybe cheaper and 100% working.

    +

    for not killing the next also, need to know: what you did wrong ?

    connect 5v to 3v3 on board ?

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    Visitor II
    February 19, 2023

    I connect 5v to board and same time my mpu is connected my pc

    How did I make such a mistake :(((((

    I can't buy a new microcontroller because it's too expensive here. I need to get this fixed

    Super User
    February 19, 2023

    >it's too expensive here

    where are you ? (with actual prices the boards often cheaper than cpu alone.)

    what is was your board ? nucleo?

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    Visitor II
    February 19, 2023

    From Turkish.My board is Discovery board(STM32F407VG) Note: 1 Turkish lira=18.85 dollar.:)

    Super User
    February 19, 2023
    1. for me still not clear, how you killed the cpu. connecting 5v to 5v would kill nothing. so..?
    2. how about your experience in repair ? or capabilities to find the defect ?
    3. where did the smoke come from? could you see some defects ?
    4. if you killed the onboard STlink (the small F103 chip) , you cannot repair easy.

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    Visitor II
    February 19, 2023

    The MPU was plugged into the computer. The USB-TTL was also plugged into the computer. Then I connected the 5v supply input of the USB-TTL to the 5v output of the MPU. The smoke came out and I disconnected it immediately. Now when I plug the MPU into the computer, the power light is on and from the ,5v and 3v outputs. I am measuring the value. However, there is a short circuit in some diodes and resistors in the debug circuit.

    Super User
    February 19, 2023

    so , i looked at the circuit and...if your lucky, you killed only D1 .

    test:

    • disconnect everything from the board;
    • solder small piece of wire to D1, both sides, to bypass it.
    • now connect CN1 usb to your PC.
    • should see ...stlink.
    • and never connect again - whatever you did connect. will kill something ...
    • >the 5v input of usb-ttl < is in best case a short to gnd. do not use again !

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    Visitor II
    February 19, 2023

    I will try you said but ı want to ask one more thing. There is a 2.55 voltage drop across D1 diode. Is there any change for this.