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Andrew Neil
Super User
July 7, 2025
Question

valid password rejected

  • July 7, 2025
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Having been away for a few days, the forum refused to accept my login.

I know I was giving correct details, because they were coming from a password "vault".

I can't see any notification that my password had expired.

I had to do a password reset.

 

This has happened before - not for a long time now, but it has happened.

4 replies

Lina_DABASINSKAITE
Community Manager
July 7, 2025

Hi @Andrew Neil , 

Let me check this out and get back to you! 

If anyone else had similar behavior, do let us know. 

Thanks,
Lina


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TDK
Super User
July 8, 2025

Today when I tried to log in it said my password has expired due to security reasons and forced me to change it. Annoying. Don't remember it doing that before.

I "changed" it to the already existing password and logged in fine.

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Pavel A.
Super User
July 9, 2025

Hmm. This can be because someone guessed your email address.

 

TDK
Super User
July 9, 2025

You're probably right. So just a coincidence that it happened same day as @Andrew Neil's issue then. Apparently you get 5 chances.

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Tesla DeLorean
Guru
July 9, 2025

>>I can't see any notification that my password had expired.

The red text on the first / initial fail say it has expired, and you need to reset.. subsequent ones don't look too.

Personally, I think this should be more obvious, or you should get an email explaining that it failed due to aging out. But then again, the email might look like a phishing scam. I'd vote it doesn't have any links, but just alerts that your login failed because it aged out, and that you should go back and reset. And that subsequent messages in red should reflect that the password aged out / expired, rather than you've got it wrong several times.

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Andrew Neil
Super User
July 9, 2025

@Tesla DeLorean wrote:

The red text on the first / initial fail say it has expired, and you need to reset.. subsequent ones don't look too..


To be fair, I didn't read the red text carefully - just assumed is was the usual "wrong credentials" message.

But, if the password actually has expired, it is *** to invite the user to keep trying - it needs to go straight to the reset prompt!

 


@Tesla DeLorean wrote:

I think this should be more obvious, 


Absolutely!

 

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Lina_DABASINSKAITE
Community Manager
July 28, 2025

Hello   

After reviewing your accounts, there was no irregular activity detected other standard password renewal request on a yearly basis.

If you have any questions, @Andrew Neil,@TDK, or notice any irregularities, feel free to notify me. 

Thanks,
Lina

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